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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1429
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- Info-Hams Digest Mon, 6 Dec 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1429
-
- Today's Topics:
- Actif 7X-Stations ( Algeria )
- API for Ham Calls
- HAM-server index file
- Hamradio with deer hunting!
- help
- Kenwood TH-78A -- Opinions wanted
- Legal Question about 97.403 (3 msgs)
- money money money
- repost: What is "RF Resistance"?
- RF Ground for 2nd story shack?
- Signal/One CX7A help
- W5YI's coverage of "temporary callsigns"
-
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- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 13:29:18 GMT
- From: psinntp!gdstech!gdstech!bat@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Actif 7X-Stations ( Algeria )
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Thanks, Nabil. I need one more new QSL for DXCC Honor
- Roll, and a real 3V card would be perfect! Many
- Hams here would love to get a card from 7X5ST, so
- any help you can give us will be greatly appreciated.
- --
- *-----------------------------------------------------------*
- * Pat Masterson D12-25 | KE2LJ@KC2FD *
- * Grumman Data Systems | 516-346-6316. *
- * Bethpage, NY 11746 | bat@gdstech.grumman.com *
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 6 Dec 93 07:36:59 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: API for Ham Calls
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I have the QRZ! CD (Time for an update on Dataset? - March 93 is starting to
- age.) --- I find it useful for lookups, however it would be nice to get
- International Datasets of Licensee's as well ... Perhaps we could come up with
- a data record format (starting with the US info) and have Internet Hams provide
- the info to eventually build up an International Callbook database. Maybe
- some kind of "Robot" could be set up, like the one at UCSD for AMPRNET DNS
- updates, that could be used to build good datasets (maybe Walnut Creek
- [cdrom.com] would sponser it) and ham community CD could be published at
- regular intervals.
-
- John D. Hays KD7UW
-
- P.S. I am not affliated in any way with Walnut Creek or the QRZ! Ham Radio CD
- other than as a customer.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 5 Dec 93 01:35:57 GMT
- From: ogicse!cs.uoregon.edu!sgiblab!pacbell.com!amdahl!grafex!ka6etb@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: HAM-server index file
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In <9312022028591.gilbaronw0mn.DLITE@delphi.com> gilbaronw0mn@delphi.com (Gilbert Baron) writes:
- >>>Phooey on you Gil! I for one am glad to see the list of files. This
- >>>ham-server is a gold mine of info - I've gotten so many goodies off
-
- >That is what the index is for. Go and read the index yourself and then get
- >what you need. Don't subject the rest of the network to this. It is not
- >needed and waste time and space and LOTS of money.
-
- Probably no more costly than the AMSAT or KEPLER info published on a much
- more regular basis.
-
- Boy, are you gonna be peeved when I get HAM-server set up for PBBS.
-
- 73 de KA6ETB
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 18:31:57 GMT
- From: unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!mace.cc.purdue.edu!@@mvb.saic.com
- Subject: Hamradio with deer hunting!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- gumaer@merlin.etsu.edu (Mark W. Gumaer) writes:
-
- >I went deer hunting with my father (KA5ZEH) last weekend in Texas and decided
- >to take another hobby with me: Hamradio!
-
- A good idea, one that is skirting the edge of legality in
- every state that I've bothered
- to check. While I will (off the record) admit to doing such for exactly
- the reasons you give:
-
- >1) emergencys
- >2) To call each other when one of us was ready to go.
-
-
- using radios to hunt is illegal because the unsportsmanlike will use one
- to call their buddies over to blow away the whole herd and/or to herd
- animals toward the guy with the gun. I'm sure the game warden will
- readily believe that you weren't engaging in either of those activities.
-
- User beware.
- --
- Perry G. Ramsey N9LFF Department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences
- pramsey@wave.atms.purdue.edu Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN USA
- Uglier things have been seen in the skies, but not by reliable witnesses
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 22:09:16 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
- Subject: help
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <ACcIZ_i878@analyt.chem.lgu.spb.su> phil@analyt.CHem.lgu.spb.SU (Alexander I. Phillichev) writes:
- >help
-
- Easy, Gang - don't start firing up your out-of-band HT's to notify the
- county sheriff; let's see what kind of help he needs first...
-
- Jeff NH6IL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 2 Dec 1993 22:09:33 GMT
- From: nntp.ucsb.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!msuinfo!arctic2!cravitma@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Kenwood TH-78A -- Opinions wanted
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I passed my Technician ticket 4 weeks ago, and am thinking about
- trying to get a Kenwood TH-78A 2m/440 HT for Christmas. Anyone out
- there who has one, has used one, or whatever and has any opinions,
- praise, condemnation etc. for them, please e-mail me. I would greatly
- appreciate as much info as possible before I ask my parents to spend
- >$400.00 on a Christmas present.
-
- Thanks.
-
- /Matthew
-
- --
- Matthew Cravit | "So I sent him to ask of the
- Michigan State University | owl, if he's there, how to
- East Lansing, MI 48825 | loosen a jar from the nose
- E-Mail: cravitma@cps.msu.edu | of a bear..."
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 19:50:09 GMT
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!apple.com!gallant.apple.com!mithrandir.apple.com!user@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Legal Question about 97.403
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I have a legal question about FCC rule 97.403. It refers to "these rules."
- Does that mean Part 97 or all or the FCC rules. (I don't have a copy in
- front of me, so I may be slightly misquoting.)
-
- This is obviously in regard to the ham in San Diego who had his equipment
- taken away. There are so many conflicting views about the laws, I decided
- to read them myself. The sheriff's department keep quoting 90.47 which is
- about permits to use the land mobile system in remote areas during
- emergencies. Which does not really apply to this case since the ham did not
- have one of these permits. The ham refers to rule 97.403, which states that
- no part of "these rules" obstructs a ham from using any radio means
- available. So I'm looking for the legal definition of "these rules."
-
- phil sohn
- sohn@apple.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 21:01:44 GMT
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!cupnews0.cup.hp.com!jholly@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Legal Question about 97.403
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Phil Sohn (sohn@apple.com) wrote:
- : I have a legal question about FCC rule 97.403. It refers to "these rules."
- : Does that mean Part 97 or all or the FCC rules. (I don't have a copy in
- : front of me, so I may be slightly misquoting.)
-
- : This is obviously in regard to the ham in San Diego who had his equipment
- : taken away. There are so many conflicting views about the laws, I decided
- : to read them myself. The sheriff's department keep quoting 90.47 which is
- : about permits to use the land mobile system in remote areas during
- : emergencies. Which does not really apply to this case since the ham did not
- : have one of these permits. The ham refers to rule 97.403, which states that
- : no part of "these rules" obstructs a ham from using any radio means
- : available. So I'm looking for the legal definition of "these rules."
-
- I believe the "these rules" applies to part 97, the rules under which
- amateurs operate. Rules under which broadcast stations, radar stations and
- the like would not seem to apply well to amateurs. Taken in that context
- then, "these rules" would be part 97. The partial quote is correct.
-
- 97.111(2) says you can exchange two communications with a station in another
- FCC-regulated service while providing emergency communications.
-
- 97.403 deals with safety of life and protection of property. A partial quote:
- "... any means of radio communication ... in connection with the immediate
- safety of human life ...". In order to use this section, I would say the
- safety of human life must be of the extreme and immedate nature...like a
- guy hanging by one hand on a tree half way down a very long cliff. If the
- person is injured, but in no immediate danger of dying then this probably
- would not apply. It may well be the person would die with in a hour
- without help, but I am not sure this is immediate enough to invoke the
- rule.
-
- It also deals with the immediate protection of property. I don't think
- there is any reason strong enough to protect property that would entice me
- to talk to the police dispatcher on a radio. I am not familiar with part 90,
- but probably is the rules under which the cops operate.
-
- I don't have equipment that can operate on other than ham bands, and if I
- did, I am not sure I would even consider operating on a cop frequency. Cops
- can get pretty dam narrow minded when it comes to somebody other than cops
- talking on their radios. The natural instinct of any normal police force is
- to take away anything they consider a threat, real or imagined. A radio that
- can operate on their frequency is such a threat. Even if the use of the
- radio was proper and resulted in the saving of a life. This probably is
- a very good argument for the use of cell phones.
-
- Jim, WA6SDM
- jholly@cup.hp.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 21:12:13 GMT
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!willis1.cis.uab.edu!spam.dom.uab.edu!user@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Legal Question about 97.403
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <sohn-031293115009@mithrandir.apple.com>, sohn@apple.com (Phil
- Sohn) wrote:
- >
- > I have a legal question about FCC rule 97.403. It refers to "these rules."
- > Does that mean Part 97 or all or the FCC rules. (I don't have a copy in
- > front of me, so I may be slightly misquoting.)
- >
- > This is obviously in regard to the ham in San Diego who had his equipment
- > taken away. There are so many conflicting views about the laws, I decided
- > to read them myself. The sheriff's department keep quoting 90.47 which is
- > about permits to use the land mobile system in remote areas during
- > emergencies. Which does not really apply to this case since the ham did not
- > have one of these permits. The ham refers to rule 97.403, which states that
- > no part of "these rules" obstructs a ham from using any radio means
- > available. So I'm looking for the legal definition of "these rules."
- >
- > phil sohn
- > sohn@apple.com
-
- The way I have read that phrase is to mean that the rules restricting
- amateurs to their own bands is not to be construed to be a limitation
- in an emergency. This means amateurs are not restricted more than
- anyone else in the use of any radio frequency in an emergency. IMHO.
-
- Steve Holland
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 4 Dec 93 10:05:05 -0700
- From: unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!news.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!mala.bc@mvb.saic.com
- Subject: money money money
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <jdm-011293090934@158.140.20.176>, jdm@cadence.com (Joe Mastroianni) writes:
- > In article <CHBJI0.6zA@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu>, pardee@sparc3.cs.uiuc.edu ()
- > wrote:
- >
- >>
- >>
- >> This awesome messages explains how to make $50,000 in cash. All you
- >> need is $5! The best part is that it is totally legal. Please read it.
- >> It really works!
- >>
- > Why is it that every generation feels it is the one that invented sex and
- > pyramid schemes?
-
- Those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it?
-
- (Yes, I'm one of that generation, no, I don't believe we invented ethier sex
- nor pyramid schemes :))
-
- Dale Babiy,
- VE7XD
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 19:50:50 GMT
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!news.dell.com!pmafire!boojum!mamie.lanl.gov!user@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: repost: What is "RF Resistance"?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- First post didn't make it out...sorry if it get duplicated later...
-
- I was looking over an ad for the MFJ SWR-analyzers. One had an optional
- "RF Resistance" meter. What is RF resistance? Is is the real part of
- the complex impedance, the absolute value of the impedance or something
- else? How does an "RF resistance meter" differ from one for DC?
-
- Thanks for any info...
-
- Tom
- KJ5LT
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 20:57:56 GMT
- From: microsoft!wingnut!richgi@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: RF Ground for 2nd story shack?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- What's the best way to get a good RF ground for a 2nd story shack? I've heard
- recommended a bunch of 1/4 wavelength wires, one for each band. Does this work?
- Are the wires 'hot'? How about that MFJ (I think) tuner for ground wires? Anyone
- use it? How about just running a heavy cable to a ground rod?
-
- Any tips from someone who's been there would be appreciated.
-
- Richard
- ki7kj
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 6 Dec 93 04:20:24 GMT
- From: ogicse!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!iat.holonet.net!rohrwerk@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Signal/One CX7A help
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Finally got a bargain-priced CX7A working after 5 months of intermittent
- work. However, it would be interesting to contact various users/gurus
- about this rig to help me figure out if I have more work to do or if I've
- reached the limits of this older rig. Example: stability is OK, but not
- great -- just component aging, or inherent in the design?
-
- Would also love a CW filter for it. Sources?
-
- John K0JD
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 15:39:09 GMT
- From: psinntp!laidbak!tellab5!chinet!megabyte@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: W5YI's coverage of "temporary callsigns"
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1993Dec2.170117.7227@cs.brown.edu>,
- Michael P. Deignan <md@maxcy2.maxcy.brown.edu> wrote:
- >a counterpart to "My Gun, My Penis - An NRA GunOwners Bible" called
-
- I could take great offense at this, but this isn't talk.politics.guns, but
- you are stereotyping...
-
- {stories of ineffective ARRL in R.I.)
-
- >*THAT* is what our League officials do in RI.
-
- Kick them out, get better ones, vote the elected ones out of office, but DO
- something.
- --
- "It is a pity that even a single drop of this noble
- gift of God should be spilled" - J.S. Bach on wine
- Mark E. Sunderlin: Technocrat in Winchester, VA KD4HRI
- aka Dr. Megabyte: megabyte@chinet.chinet.com (703) 722-9330
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1993 20:48:40 GMT
- From: yuma!galen@purdue.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <1993Nov26.200816.19512@combdyn.com>, <754583670.19snx@mu.apana.org.au>, <1993Dec1.230224.1567@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu>rdu
- Subject : Re: Calculating SWR (U.S. Exams)
-
- In article <1993Dec1.230224.1567@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu> clmorgan@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu writes:
- >In article <754583670.19snx@mu.apana.org.au>, jmorris@mu.apana.org.au (James Morris) writes:
- >> In article <1993Nov26.200816.19512@combdyn.com> lawrence@combdyn.com writes:
- >>>How do you calculate SWR? I have a power meter...
- >> I am not trying to be mean,...a radio theory test for your amateur license
- >> James Morris VK2GVA
- >
- > As I recall the (US) ham exams, this topic is not addressed ...
- > 73 >< Carl K8NHE
-
- SWR is on the Tech and General exams, but not in terms of forward and
- reflected power. The questions ask about what forward and reflected power
- are, and how to calculate SWR if you know the impedance of the transmission
- line and the load resistance, no formulae with Fwd or Ref and square roots.
-
- Galen, KF0YJ
-
- ------------------------------
-
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